Well, since enryu can create life and since phantaminium is an exis(created by someone) it is possible that the latter was created by enryu(despite the fact that exis are known to have been created by lesser being, nothing can prevent a lesser being to be an irregular and latter become a ranker, right?)
enryu is phantaminium's father
Started by sentry, May 08 2012 01:51 PM
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Urek, a leader in the Winged Tree, is the on who is rumor to be able to create life.
Enryu, known for killing a floor Gaurdian, is someone else.
Edit: My info above is wrong, it was orignally mistranslated? ether way, Enryu is the one with the rumor to be able to create life.
Enryu(edit) being able to create Phantaminium, it's a bit far fetched. As I have heard it, Exises help create the tower, they were around before the tower was created? (something to do based on SIU earlier work.) That's as I have heard it second hand, doesn't mean its true.
The usal question I hear on Phantaminium is, If he is so powerful (demi-god) is it fair to even consider him a ranker? - He is on the list of Rankers because it seem the ToG world doesn't know hes an Exis, almost everything about him is a mystery.
Enryu, known for killing a floor Gaurdian, is someone else.
Edit: My info above is wrong, it was orignally mistranslated? ether way, Enryu is the one with the rumor to be able to create life.
Enryu(edit) being able to create Phantaminium, it's a bit far fetched. As I have heard it, Exises help create the tower, they were around before the tower was created? (something to do based on SIU earlier work.) That's as I have heard it second hand, doesn't mean its true.
The usal question I hear on Phantaminium is, If he is so powerful (demi-god) is it fair to even consider him a ranker? - He is on the list of Rankers because it seem the ToG world doesn't know hes an Exis, almost everything about him is a mystery.
Edited by Nix, 08 May 2012 - 04:52 PM.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:30 PM
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It is Enryu who is rumoured to be able to create life. Grumpy himself stated that.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:54 PM
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Actually, wasn't that a mistranslation? The question has been brought up several times and the answer has always been that it was translated wrong and Enryu was the one with the life-creating abilities ^^Urek, a leader in the Winged Tree, is the on who is rumor to be able to create life.
Enryu, known for killing a floor Gaurdian, is someone else.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:21 PM
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It is Enryu who is rumoured to be able to create life. Grumpy himself stated that.
Actually, wasn't that a mistranslation? The question has been brought up several times and the answer has always been that it was translated wrong and Enryu was the one with the life-creating abilities ^^
TY both for catching that. My info was bad/old.
Edited by Nix, 08 May 2012 - 04:52 PM.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:50 PM
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Well, since an Exis isn't Born, but Made. It means someone made Phantaminum, and considering that Enryu's ability to manipulate shinsoo is regarded a cut above the guardians I think Enryu is well placed as a potential maker, other characters would be Zahard and The Father of Blacksmithing (sry forgot his name), but I do think out of those 3, I find Enryu as the most likly maker.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:50 PM
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so true, things like these can really makes you sad xD
Well, since an Exis isn't Born, but Made. It means someone made Phantaminum, and considering that Enryu's ability to manipulate shinsoo is regarded a cut above the guardians I think Enryu is well placed as a potential maker, other characters would be Zahard and The Father of Blacksmithing (sry forgot his name), but I do think out of those 3, I find Enryu as the most likly maker.
Making something is many things, your theories are far too faulty. I can make a hammer from wood and a piece of iron. You might make an exis from a load of power and a strong vessel (person who is alive). You can also make a man out of someone, words are never to be taken as facts (a definition can turn one story into another) in a story either, specially one that is translated from another language.
In the end it seems far more likely that the beings called exis, has little or nothing to do with the tower at all (and most certainly not made in the the tower. Shinsoo being a power unique to the tower, even if the tower was made to create exis, it would most likely only be from seeing true exis out in the real world. In the end to many factors to make any stable or likely theories at all).
Another thing even if all of it was true, the correct term would be maker not farther.
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I merly stated the posibilites of who would have made Phantaminum if he was made inside the tower, personally myself I am of the thought that Exis's are made outside the tower and though they have some conection to shinsoo because some how the tower was made with a force that could create shinsoo and that could probably create an Exis as well.
My view of an Exis is probably that of Selfaware, Living Shinsoo in humanoid form, an entity different from others.
But just because my view differ from someone else doesn't mean I can try and put myself in it and try to look at it in angles to make it work (thats my idea of Fun).
My view of an Exis is probably that of Selfaware, Living Shinsoo in humanoid form, an entity different from others.
But just because my view differ from someone else doesn't mean I can try and put myself in it and try to look at it in angles to make it work (thats my idea of Fun).
Posted 13 May 2012 - 09:20 PM
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I merly stated the posibilites of who would have made Phantaminum if he was made inside the tower, personally myself I am of the thought that Exis's are made outside the tower and though they have some conection to shinsoo because some how the tower was made with a force that could create shinsoo and that could probably create an Exis as well.
My view of an Exis is probably that of Selfaware, Living Shinsoo in humanoid form, an entity different from others.
But just because my view differ from someone else doesn't mean I can try and put myself in it and try to look at it in angles to make it work (thats my idea of Fun).
Great, just remember you aren't the only one here, other people will read your theory and if they don't get everything in ToG atm they would either assume what you said had a great chance in being correct or become confused. Please do state if you are of a different opinion first and clearly.
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So this entire theory is based on the assumption that because Phantaminum is an Exis and therefor was created.
And since Enryu has the ability to create life using shinsoo, that he created Phantaminum?
It is practically impossible. Enryu, Phantaminum, and Urek Mazino are all irregulars. We know Urek followed Phantaminum into the Tower. And we know Enryu creates life using Shinsoo. From the Author's blog we also know that there is no Shinsoo outside the Tower, instead there is air. In order for Urek to have followed Phantaminum into the Tower, Enryu would have had to create Phantaminum outside the Tower. That is something he cannot do, since there's no Shinsoo. QED Enryu didn't create Phantaminum.
And since Enryu has the ability to create life using shinsoo, that he created Phantaminum?
It is practically impossible. Enryu, Phantaminum, and Urek Mazino are all irregulars. We know Urek followed Phantaminum into the Tower. And we know Enryu creates life using Shinsoo. From the Author's blog we also know that there is no Shinsoo outside the Tower, instead there is air. In order for Urek to have followed Phantaminum into the Tower, Enryu would have had to create Phantaminum outside the Tower. That is something he cannot do, since there's no Shinsoo. QED Enryu didn't create Phantaminum.
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But Since Exis would be created outside the tower they aren't created by shinsoo to begin with.
The relationship bewtween Phantaminum and Urek is a very talkative issue, but it seems to be a fact that Urek tracked Phantaminum and followed him inside the Tower, although nothing was reported clearly.
In my opinion that isn't a Fact but stated as a possiblity due to some form of conection between them.
The relationship bewtween Phantaminum and Urek is a very talkative issue, but it seems to be a fact that Urek tracked Phantaminum and followed him inside the Tower, although nothing was reported clearly.
In my opinion that isn't a Fact but stated as a possiblity due to some form of conection between them.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 06:50 AM
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