Facts to come, because I feel like people should know the real facts about katanas :3. It'll be an educational experience, put forth questions you may have and I'll try to answer them~ Oh, and I shall automatically answer whether a broadsword is better than a katana, because that's what prompted me to make this thread :3.
Muni's Katana Fact's Thread
Started by Muni, May 08 2012 02:26 AM
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how many cuts does it take to reach the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop
Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:50 AM
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Half, if you didn't stop the blade it would just go straight through and you would be one tootsie pop less from what you had before :3how many cuts does it take to reach the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop
Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:51 AM
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Actually, yes. Katanas are widely considered to be the sharpest blade of all the swords, this is true. However, a lot of people think that translates to "toughest blade" or "hardest blade". That is not true at all. In fact, a lot of the techniques by a learned swordsman revolve around deflecting the weight of an opponent strike so it does not damage your sword. The katana is actually quite fragile when not slicing, it's not meant to cleave like other swords. In a sense, it's like a sushi knife, easily the sharpest thing, that can dissect a fish with the clearest finesse, but will not work against a butchering knife. If you're fighting someone whose a beginner at katanas (you can tell if they swing at you in large arcs and with muscle strength, you do not cut with muscle when using a katana), you can easily use a heavier sword to destroy their katana, provided it's not a super high quality one.~
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:00 AM
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So a pirate with a large cutlass would beat a katana user (assuming they are at similar mastery with their weapons)
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:03 AM
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I would class that at 7/10 times, pirate would winSo a pirate with a large cutlass would beat a katana user (assuming they are at similar mastery with their weapons)
. If this is pirates vs. ninjas though, it wouldn't be a katana that the pirates would have to deal with xD I'd probably be a kusarigama/caltrops/poison, or something else xD
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:09 AM
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Oh, a katakana thread! Now I can finally ask a native about- oh...Katana. Never mind. ._.
Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:39 AM
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It's odd to see this kind of thread in a online manga reader forum
Anyway,
I do want to ask.
What is damascus steel mean?
What is "hardness"? how hard is 60 compare to standard stainless steel kitchen knife?
i do see these feature a lot in Japanese Kitchen knife
Anyway,
I do want to ask.
What is damascus steel mean?
What is "hardness"? how hard is 60 compare to standard stainless steel kitchen knife?
i do see these feature a lot in Japanese Kitchen knife
Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:56 AM
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No problems :3
Damascus steel is a type of medieval forging technique to make blades, used quite often in the Europes :3 the style is quite lost now, but it like many "legendary techniques" was thought to have phenomenal abilities, and it's distinguishing characteristic is that it looks sorta like (in my opinion) flowing magma, though some people say water as well. The Japanese katana equivalent to Dasmascus steel is hoshitetsu (star-metal, a technique/metal that we also believe to be lost today) Nowadays, it has no real meaning, and is used as a sort of selling point for knives, basically to mean they are very sharp/strong. They aren't actually Damascus blades
The hardness of a blade is just that, it's hardness. Do not think that this means the harder the blade the stronger it is though. In many blades, the characteristics of the blade are usually "hardness" and "softness". The hardness of a blade determines how firm and unyielding it is. The softness determines how malleable and resilient a blade is. Too hard of a blade will cause the blade to be brittle and shatter. To soft a blade will cause it to bend and become unusable. A blade can have high "hardness" and high "softness" at the same time, depending on the technique you use to forge it, that's why Japanese katanas are renowned for their sharpness. Finally, the hardness number of a blade is almost exclusively applied to knives. You can find this info if you Google it, and it should tell you how hard a specific number is. While Japanese knives are good knives, they are pretty different from katanas/iaitos ;3.
Damascus steel is a type of medieval forging technique to make blades, used quite often in the Europes :3 the style is quite lost now, but it like many "legendary techniques" was thought to have phenomenal abilities, and it's distinguishing characteristic is that it looks sorta like (in my opinion) flowing magma, though some people say water as well. The Japanese katana equivalent to Dasmascus steel is hoshitetsu (star-metal, a technique/metal that we also believe to be lost today) Nowadays, it has no real meaning, and is used as a sort of selling point for knives, basically to mean they are very sharp/strong. They aren't actually Damascus blades
The hardness of a blade is just that, it's hardness. Do not think that this means the harder the blade the stronger it is though. In many blades, the characteristics of the blade are usually "hardness" and "softness". The hardness of a blade determines how firm and unyielding it is. The softness determines how malleable and resilient a blade is. Too hard of a blade will cause the blade to be brittle and shatter. To soft a blade will cause it to bend and become unusable. A blade can have high "hardness" and high "softness" at the same time, depending on the technique you use to forge it, that's why Japanese katanas are renowned for their sharpness. Finally, the hardness number of a blade is almost exclusively applied to knives. You can find this info if you Google it, and it should tell you how hard a specific number is. While Japanese knives are good knives, they are pretty different from katanas/iaitos ;3.
Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:21 AM
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Thanks for your answer.
So having a blade forged with "Damascus" technique has no real benefit
It just makes the blade looks prettier due to water/magma pattern appear on it, and sell for more.
and, I assume hardness 60 means harder than standard stainless steel. Is this correct?
as standard stainless steel blade will be eaten away due to regular sharpening.
So having a blade forged with "Damascus" technique has no real benefit
It just makes the blade looks prettier due to water/magma pattern appear on it, and sell for more.
and, I assume hardness 60 means harder than standard stainless steel. Is this correct?
as standard stainless steel blade will be eaten away due to regular sharpening.
Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:23 AM
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what's the best sword for ninja in final fantasy tactics advance 2
Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:42 AM
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I suggest Hyakushiki-masamune with Zanmato after you get dual wield from Ragetsu Denbu, though I'm not the most avid player of FFTA2, check around forums
You actually CAN place "chi" into a blade :3...it doesn't shoot Getsuga Tenshos though. In fact, it's more of an abstract concept, but suffice to say it let's you cut "cleaner". It's the same as someone who does Shaolin doing a handstand on 4 fingers. It's physically possible, just not normally since the brain has limiters on it. Gathering chi can just be thought of as calming yourself to an absolute point. If you become so intensely focused into this state, there will be many things you can do with a blade you shouldn't be able to normally :3. That said, no Getsuga Tenshos. Or making your sword bend. Actually, just erase any Bleach ability you may see from your mind, those generally won't work. Also, it IS a meditative technique, so being able to "focus your chi" and being able to "focus your chi in battle" are two completely different things.
You actually CAN place "chi" into a blade :3...it doesn't shoot Getsuga Tenshos though. In fact, it's more of an abstract concept, but suffice to say it let's you cut "cleaner". It's the same as someone who does Shaolin doing a handstand on 4 fingers. It's physically possible, just not normally since the brain has limiters on it. Gathering chi can just be thought of as calming yourself to an absolute point. If you become so intensely focused into this state, there will be many things you can do with a blade you shouldn't be able to normally :3. That said, no Getsuga Tenshos. Or making your sword bend. Actually, just erase any Bleach ability you may see from your mind, those generally won't work. Also, it IS a meditative technique, so being able to "focus your chi" and being able to "focus your chi in battle" are two completely different things.
Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:22 PM
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I suggest Hyakushiki-masamune with Zanmato after you get dual wield from Ragetsu Denbu, though I'm not the most avid player of FFTA2, check around forums
You actually CAN place "chi" into a blade :3...it doesn't shoot Getsuga Tenshos though. In fact, it's more of an abstract concept, but suffice to say it let's you cut "cleaner". It's the same as someone who does Shaolin doing a handstand on 4 fingers. It's physically possible, just not normally since the brain has limiters on it. Gathering chi can just be thought of as calming yourself to an absolute point. If you become so intensely focused into this state, there will be many things you can do with a blade you shouldn't be able to normally :3. That said, no Getsuga Tenshos. Or making your sword bend. Actually, just erase any Bleach ability you may see from your mind, those generally won't work. Also, it IS a meditative technique, so being able to "focus your chi" and being able to "focus your chi in battle" are two completely different things.
You had me until the bolded text. My kind of focus involves calming myself to allow thoughts of unicorns and bacon to fly.
I'm not worthy
Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:12 PM
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Will a Katana break if it strikes bone with exceptional force?
Does that mean I shouldn't use a Katana for the upcoming zombie apocalypse?
Does that mean I shouldn't use a Katana for the upcoming zombie apocalypse?
Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:27 PM
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In most of the United States (and even some other countries) it's legal to carry a katana with you as long as its:
a) being carried expressly from one place to another.
being used for class or some sort of other activity in which the blade is necessary
c) it is not easily accessible, not only for other people, but also for you (aka, you can't just pull it out in the middle of nowhere and start cuttin')
Cutting with force with a katana is already thinking about it wrong. The best way to break a katana is to apply a lot of force to a swing. Instead, a general rule of thumb when slicing with a katana is to spend the first part of the swing almost whipping the blade forward with a snap of your wrists, and the rest of the swing controlling and stopping the blade. This way, it should cleanly go through minor and softer bones, but won't be damaged if it hits anything too difficult to cut, if it does hit something like that, there are techniques used to get the blade out and finish the opponent before they have time to react. And for the zombie apocalypse? Guns are where they're at bro :3 Unless you want to infect yo blade with zombie blood, I suggest a .22 mm and some emergency rations :3.
a) being carried expressly from one place to another.
being used for class or some sort of other activity in which the blade is necessaryc) it is not easily accessible, not only for other people, but also for you (aka, you can't just pull it out in the middle of nowhere and start cuttin')
Cutting with force with a katana is already thinking about it wrong
. The best way to break a katana is to apply a lot of force to a swing. Instead, a general rule of thumb when slicing with a katana is to spend the first part of the swing almost whipping the blade forward with a snap of your wrists, and the rest of the swing controlling and stopping the blade. This way, it should cleanly go through minor and softer bones, but won't be damaged if it hits anything too difficult to cut, if it does hit something like that, there are techniques used to get the blade out and finish the opponent before they have time to react. And for the zombie apocalypse? Guns are where they're at bro :3 Unless you want to infect yo blade with zombie blood, I suggest a .22 mm and some emergency rations :3.
Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:33 AM
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Now Muni, May I ask you, Who created the katana? What is the history behind the katana Invention?
Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:41 AM
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What does 'folding' mean? I've seen the term a number of times in relation to katanas over the years.
Slightly off-topic (in that it's not related to specific real katana facts) but have you read Until Death Do Us Part(manga)?
Slightly off-topic (in that it's not related to specific real katana facts) but have you read Until Death Do Us Part(manga)?
Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:06 AM
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