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I appreciate all the replies, but I no longer believe this theory, my reasons can be found on page 2. Nonetheless, feel free to discuss the theory or any theories you may have.

Please help me prove this theory wrong, I created an account to discuss this because it has been disturbing me. The more I think about it the more it makes sense, and to think that this is the direction the story is going to go, I’m going to be really disappointed.

Okay so here it goes:

Eurasia Enne Zahard is Rachel and Baam is the Colorless December. Yes, I know this theory has been brought forth before but hear me out.

Eurasia Enne Zahard is said to have gone insane along with the Colorless December and both where sealed away, whether or not it was the result of the Colorless December or not is unknown, but the way my theory goes it is the Colorless Decembers fault.
  • It is said the Colorless December was also insane and sealed away, a few times throughout the manhwa, it has been implied that Baam isn’t in his right mind (especially when it comes to Rachel).
  • As the same can be said about Rachel, who has an unhealthy obsession with the stars and reaching the top, clearly willing to kill just like Enne Zahard, and trying to get away from Baam.
Rachel’s name means “revenge” while Enne which can also be translated as Anne means “merciful, gracious” or “chosen by God”. Complete opposite, implying that Enne(Anne) was once a gracious and kind person until she received the Colorless December (which would be Baam) who made her go insane. Thus she was sealed away and reborn in a way as Rachel seeking revenge (consciously or subconsciously) against the Colorless December who ruined her life.

Rachel can also be seen as the owner of Baam. He was devoted to her and would do anything for her, Rachel as the master and Baam being the servant (weapon). This would also be a reason as to why Baam feels as if Rachel always shone like a star, even when he first saw her.

There is a flashback in which we saw Rachel’s hair being pulled by an unknown person. If my theory is correct, it is a high probability that this person was Baam himself and some of the crazy was slipping through the cracks at this time.
Also this stands as reason as to why Rachel wanted to leave so badly and why she said she is afraid of the Night (Baam). Because of what he did to her before and what he could do now.

Rachel says that he took everything from her, him being able to climb the tower and now being the one that is chosen by God instead of her.

Anedrossi said she felt as if Rachel was from another world and that she shouldn’t attack her. Anedrossi would be right; she doesn’t belong in the lower levels of the tower if she was once the most powerful princess of Zahard, she would be with them among the “stars” (Zahard, and other high rankers).

Baam’s whole name is Twenty-fifth Night. This is a highly unusual name and sounds more like he was born (produced) on the 25th of December. As most of us know the 25th of December is a day used to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, if the same terminology is used in Tower of God, then Baam is the chosen one, and possibly the son of the Tower of God.

I don’t like the idea of Baam being some sort of sentient weapon. But I started making too much sense to myself and I don’t want to be right.

Edited by Antique, 11 July 2012 - 06:59 AM.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:53 AM


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Baam didn't resonate when he was near the Black March or Green April, therefore he's not the weapon (All the 13 Months Series resonate around each other).

Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:11 AM

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WTF... There's no need to prove you wrong cause there's no evidence for your crackpot theory in the first place (apart from pointless speculation)...
Besides, the idea that Baam is actually a weapon is kinda interesting, though I don't believe it at all.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:21 AM


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Nothing holds water. Two previous posts are more than enough to dispove it, and reading the ToG helps more, also visit Wiki. No need to blaber in detail :)

Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:31 AM

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WTF... There's no need to prove you wrong cause there's no evidence for your crackpot theory in the first place (apart from pointless speculation)...
Besides, the idea that Baam is actually a weapon is kinda interesting, though I don't believe it at all.


Haha, no need to be mean... :P (not all speculation is pointless) , but yea it is kind of a crackpot theory, but It made sense to me.

Baam didn't resonate when he was near the Black March or Green April, therefore he's not the weapon (All the 13 Months Series resonate around each other).


Yea, I thought of that too, but I considered Baam to be special so it may not have applied after being sealed.

Nothing holds water. Two previous posts are more than enough to dispove it, and reading the ToG helps more, also visit Wiki. No need to blaber in detail :)


I really hope not, I seriously hope I'm wrong. If you could provide any links (from the previous posts or wiki) I would appreciate it. :D

Edited by Antique, 22 April 2012 - 08:44 AM.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:40 AM


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There isn't really a need for any links. And I'm really lazy, so I won't be looking for any ether :P
Anyway, like Mazino said, 13 month series resonate when near each other, Baam did not. You can find that info in the Crown Game chapters.
Also, Lahel wasn't sealed, she was talking about the other places and stories and so on, she had to hear is somewhere.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:00 AM

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There isn't really a need for any links. And I'm really lazy, so I won't be looking for any ether :P
Anyway, like Mazino said, 13 month series resonate when near each other, Baam did not. You can find that info in the Crown Game chapters.
Also, Lahel wasn't sealed, she was talking about the other places and stories and so on, she had to hear is somewhere.


Yea, I was probably over-thinking some things and got too excited, connecting dots that didn't exist. I'm sure that SIU has bigger plans for Baam and Rachel other than being a crazy princess and weapon.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:09 AM


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Baam didn't resonate when he was near the Black March or Green April, therefore he's not the weapon (All the 13 Months Series resonate around each other).


Maybe they only resonate when they're in their weapon form?

Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:09 AM

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i do like your theory (though i don't believe it) especially the part about Rachel's saying that she's "afraid of the night". Something's very mysterious about it.
I also like your thinking about the origin of names, but with a fast digging on google i couldn't find that "Rachel" means revenge. I do think though that SIU didn't choose the names on a whim and that their is some pronound meaning to them...

Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:47 AM


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i do like your theory (though i don't believe it) especially the part about Rachel's saying that she's "afraid of the night". Something's very mysterious about it.
I also like your thinking about the origin of names, but with a fast digging on google i couldn't find that "Rachel" means revenge. I do think though that SIU didn't choose the names on a whim and that their is some pronound meaning to them...


I found the Rachel = revenge in the trivia part of Rachel's wiki. http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Rachel :)

However maybe the information is wrong?

Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:54 AM


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...I can see SIU pulling this on us... Delete this thread (threat) before he finds out!

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"What is this? [Reads theory] Oh. my. god. This is... This is the most amazing theory I've ever read. It totally shakes things up AND explains his (previous) obsession. Who wrote this? [Reads Antique] *Sniff* I never thought that I would say this, but...
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:00 AM

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God of LOL is right, you should delete this thred before siu reads it xD

Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:59 AM


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I like the theory but i think there are no evidence, these are mere speculation but i like it.

Edited by sentry, 22 April 2012 - 01:05 PM.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:04 PM


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Speculations supported by speculations. It's kind of crazy. And, well, Baam saw and spoke up with Black March. In their talking there was no signal of Baam being a series one.

I think everybody would go for the possibility of "Baam's 25th night". Something happened that day or he is the 25th about something and Rachel knows.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

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WTF... There's no need to prove you wrong cause there's no evidence for your crackpot theory in the first place (apart from pointless speculation)...
Besides, the idea that Baam is actually a weapon is kinda interesting, though I don't believe it at all.


Hey guys, i am going to insult you because i have no arguments against your theory, xD am i cool yet?


is there an ignore feature? need to ignore this douchebag

Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:57 PM


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Hmm, weren't all kandachime girls ? Can't remember.
Well Baam IS a weapon. Maybe his own, maybe someone else's too. I would not be disapointed if he was Colorless December.
Even if he was made by a blacksmith, what we have here is a handsome boy. It's all that matters, isn't it? x)

And the Colorless December is kinda an Irregular among Irregulars weapons no ? Like Baam, a Chosen Irregular.

Aw, but would like it better if Colorless December ended beeing Baam's weapon. Like the two halfs of a soul, or like a badass with his badass of a weapon.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

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I found the Rachel = revenge in the trivia part of Rachel's wiki. http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Rachel :)

However maybe the information is wrong?


Quite ironic, while hilarious, considering that Rachel is a Hebrew name that means "

little lamb, an ewe, one with purity".


Posted 22 April 2012 - 02:50 PM


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Quite ironic, while hilarious, considering that Rachel is a Hebrew name that means "

little lamb, an ewe, one with purity".



I remember reading rachel means revenge in german in a Sherlock Holmes novel (the very first one to be precise). Though I bet Rachel has a lot of different meanings even for different languages.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:14 PM


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Enne is considered an exquisitely beautiful princess. If she was rachel, then being sealed must have done some real damage to her face.


Also what would Rachel's motive be in climbing the tower? Revenge against Zahard? I thought she was already a ranker. Can't she do it by herself without the need of a team? Moreover, if she was really Enne, why would she be afraid of doing Headon's test? Even if she was weakened by being sealed to the point of feeling helpless against the eel, I think she would have realized how to pass the exam, which Evan mentioned, required extreme courage and determination that springs from experience. If Enne had all her memories intact, then should have been able to pass the test by herself.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:33 PM


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I found the Rachel = revenge in the trivia part of Rachel's wiki. http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Rachel :)

However maybe the information is wrong?


I also like your thinking about the origin of names, but with a fast digging on google i couldn't find that "Rachel" means revenge. I do think though that SIU didn't choose the names on a whim and that their is some pronound meaning to them...


Rachel, Rachael, Rachel, Rahel, etc originate from the Hebrew word רָחֵל means "ewe" (female sheep).

And you know what sheep are considered.... easy to manipulate individuals.

Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:47 PM