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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:10 PM
BEWARE THERE ARE SOME TROLLS
THOSE ARE MORE DANGEROUS THAN
HURRICANES! Please do not feed them!
... /rant over
I do enjoy reading the manga tho for some reason :S
Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:48 AM
There is an art to conversation, you see, and part of that art is the ability to occasionally let a trifling difference of opinion slide by without making a federal case out of it.
So he says, “Clock,” and I think, Okay. Fair enough. I see your point.
“Clock,” I agree."
Pat Rothfuss, about his (very young) son.
I remember after reading Hapi Mari through the first time, I set out to look for other marriage-related josei/shojo series, but each time I was sorely disappointed by the lack of man in the male leads and lack of charm in the female leads (Hadashi de Bara wo Fume and Faster Than a Kiss comes to mind). x3 That said, does anyone have any good recs for Hapi Mari lovers? XD I'm sort of over my initial 'Hapi Mari marathon' phase so am likely to be way more receptive to new series of a similar genre!
Edited by pandaranda, 20 May 2012 - 12:36 PM.
Posted 20 May 2012 - 09:49 AM
Edited by Comadrin, 12 October 2012 - 01:57 AM.
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:08 PM
By the way, I did figure out earlier than Chiwa that Hokuto was the target and not his mother.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 01:57 AM
Kimi wa Pet is a really good josei that involves long term cohabitation, but it totally breaks the josei stereotypes for what the leading role people are supposed to be like, so you might find a distinct "lack of man" in the male protagonist. And I mean the female lead is probably about 6 ft tall, aggressively competent at work, and a kick-ass martial artist, so while she's actually quite vulnerable underneath some might think she lacked charm. My other favourite josei, Nodame Cantabile, is even farther off. On the other hand, they're both amazing classic manga where for my money Hapi Mari is decent but not seriously memorable, so I certainly think they're worth a look.
. . . I know a yuri where the "marriage" came in at the beginning, but it's a light slice-of-life comedy (called "Wife and wife" IIRC). Fun, but not really what you're looking for I'd think.
As to the characterization in Hapi Mari, I like Chiwawa OK. She's an awful lot like a lot of typical shoujo heroines, but I like shoujo so it's cool, and she has a bit of something to her. But the guy annoys me . . . he is absolutely the walking josei hero stereotype in every way I can think of, from his height and his haircut to his forcefulness, wealth, arrogance and hypercompetence, right down to the way it took our heroine to awaken him gradually to Lurve and a Softer Side . . . his type is one of the reasons I often don't like josei much. Josei tends to a very "Harlequin" type of hero, where the girl goes "Oooh! Aaah!" as the guy sweeps her off her feet and forcefully has his way with her throbbing bosom and the implicit fantasy being sold to the women is "You will meet a tall dark stranger and he will take care of you and you will never have to work again as long as you subordinate your will to his and it won't be your fault because he's a big strong man and you're just a small weak woman who instinctively bla bla". And aside from the sexism of it all I've always found it pretty boring as a rule.
Edited by Purple Library Guy, 12 October 2012 - 06:29 PM.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:13 PM
- Comadrin likes this
Yet, the Harlequin and like genre of romance novels still sell like hotcakes in the US (just look in used paperback stores), breeding generation after generation of women (luckily, only a percentage of the reading population) who look for this kind of relationship. This often turns them into serial victims in terms of relationships. I have also read (usually only the beginning portions) of "romantic" manga where the male lead is essentially a rapist, the girl is an innocent flower, and they end up living happily ever after in an abusive relationship. Barf, barf, barf. Gimme Kimi ni Todoki any day.
Back to Hapi Mari: Yeah, it has a lot of these flaws, but at least it has a plot, and Hokuto wasn't a total cad at the get-go, as so many of them are. I do find the plot interesting, as his family reminds me of several English books from the 1920's and 1930's about arrogant, snotty families, the crimes they commit, and the messes they cause. The only one I can remember the title of offhand is "Penhallow," by Georgette Heyer (a writer of comedies of manners, rather than sappy romance, although she had her failures). My point being that this manga is a story like those, where one does not necessarily have to like the characters very much. It says to me that Hokuto is somewhat of an arrogant jerk (with some redeeming qualities, even from the beginning), but he is that way for a reason, and it isn't necessarily good for him to be a jerk.
The forgoing is kind of muddled, but I got drawn more into the actual plot of the story much more than into the romance part.
Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:06 AM
Edited by AndTheHawk, 29 November 2012 - 10:26 PM.
Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:25 PM
Edited: I got to thinking more about it, and started wondering who in the family setup could be behind it so that knowledge of it would hurt Haruto so much. The only two I could think of were the Grandfather and Souma-San the secretary, but then Chiwa wouldn't have been looking around the family meeting so carefully and wondering who the person was and if they were there. This lead me to believe that the shocking revelation in the letter was more than just someone Haruto's father suspected of the attempt on Haruto's life. And with this cliffhanger, we don't even know who got stabbed, although I suspect it was Chiwa, since she saw the attacker first, and is the type to throw herself in to protect Haruto. Damn, we have to wait a month or so to find out.
Edited by Comadrin, 30 November 2012 - 06:17 AM.
Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:35 AM
While I tend to agree with PLG about "hyper-competent and arrogant" male mc's and teary-eyed victim-type female mc's, I think the character growth of both and the intricate plot development by the mangaka definitely overshadow those characteristics in this story. I'm really looking forward to the coming chapters.
Edited by Comadrin, 24 December 2012 - 07:37 AM.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:35 AM