If this is an old refused suggestion, then sorry.
Ok, I think that an 'arts' genre tag should be nice and useful. You know, there are those countless music manga and some photography and painting/drawing stuff on anothers. When I see these manga's genre tags (e.g. Bakuman), I always think 'there are stuff missing here'.
That's just it. Thank you.
'Arts' genre
Started by Alrei, Feb 21 2012 03:21 PM
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You can select type: artbook. I don't think art is really a genre, since all manga is art.
edit: posted to fast, seems you weren't exactly looking for artbooks but for manga that deal with arts. I guess a tag for that would be kind of useful, yes.
Batoto seems to have these standard tags, which you see on every manga site though. I think they are mostly derived from mangaupdates, so coming up with new tags would mean a good deal of extra effort probably.
edit: posted to fast, seems you weren't exactly looking for artbooks but for manga that deal with arts. I guess a tag for that would be kind of useful, yes.
Batoto seems to have these standard tags, which you see on every manga site though. I think they are mostly derived from mangaupdates, so coming up with new tags would mean a good deal of extra effort probably.
Edited by vimes123, 21 February 2012 - 03:49 PM.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:46 PM
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genre: "a. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content" http://www.thefreedictionary.com/genreThat sounds more like some sort of category to me then an actual genre.
Most of the genre which are tagged here aren't usually referred to as genre though, like "smut", "adventure" or "action".
Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:48 PM
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Not sure what you are trying to say vimes123, so I'll just interpret this as a question directed towards me elaborate what I said.
A 'genre' is a certain type category, it's classified based on several stylistic criteria. Like your definition says it has to be 'distinctive', and I am of the opinion that 'arts' can be used too broadly to fit into the category of 'genre'.
Genres are created by convention and to my knowledge 'adventure' and 'action' are very common and aren't confined to the manga/comic community. (You could argue about 'smut' though.)
A 'genre' is a certain type category, it's classified based on several stylistic criteria. Like your definition says it has to be 'distinctive', and I am of the opinion that 'arts' can be used too broadly to fit into the category of 'genre'.
Genres are created by convention and to my knowledge 'adventure' and 'action' are very common and aren't confined to the manga/comic community. (You could argue about 'smut' though.)
Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:21 PM
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I'm not sure there is really an official difference between genres and categories.
This manga belong to the shonen genre, this manga belongs to the shonen category... that sounds pretty much the same to me. But I guess mangaupdate used genre for the most used tags and categories to refine the search.
That's make me think, is there a way to search manga by genre/category here on batoto ? I couldn't find it.
This manga belong to the shonen genre, this manga belongs to the shonen category... that sounds pretty much the same to me. But I guess mangaupdate used genre for the most used tags and categories to refine the search.
That's make me think, is there a way to search manga by genre/category here on batoto ? I couldn't find it.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:02 PM
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Actually we users can edit the "genres" (we can call them this, right?) of any manga. This way we can "fix" whatever doesn't seems right, yet some people may fuck up the genre tags of any manga.
Just like this http://i42.tinypic.com/fdu2yo.png
And the discussion here is not about what is and what isn't a genre. Stop please.
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Yes, here http://www.batoto.net/search >Advanced Options
Just like this http://i42.tinypic.com/fdu2yo.png
And the discussion here is not about what is and what isn't a genre. Stop please.
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Yes, here http://www.batoto.net/search >Advanced Options
Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:11 PM
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Hmmmm maybe, it's just like yaoi/yuri and romance. But if you think about a manga about various fighters, "Arts" looks strange.Something to consider: isn't "martial arts" an arts subgenre?
But whatever, having more genre tags just improves the search and 'categorization' (or wtv) of a manga.
Edited by Alrei, 21 February 2012 - 07:59 PM.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:57 PM
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Actually we users can edit the "genres" (we can call them this, right?) of any manga. This way we can "fix" whatever doesn't seems right, yet some people may fuck up the genre tags of any manga.
Just like this http://i42.tinypic.com/fdu2yo.png
And the discussion here is not about what is and what isn't a genre. Stop please.
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Yes, here http://www.batoto.net/search >Advanced Options
Yes... those random people who insist in their silly minds that shounen ai is in fact yaoi
oddly enough it doesn't happen on mu xD
Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:28 PM
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from what I see the genre section here is based off MU's genre options, so I don't think it really is necessary to change. By adding in an arts genre it's going to make things a little confusing, it'd be better to add something like 'arts' category (aka a while new category section like that of mangaupdates) but then again that might just make things really confusing. Overall it'd probably be useful but it's probably not such an urgent need.
Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:49 AM
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If you see someone abusing information, please report to the moderators. We can lock the comic from being edited further.Actually we users can edit the "genres" (we can call them this, right?) of any manga. This way we can "fix" whatever doesn't seems right, yet some people may fuck up the genre tags of any manga.
Just like this http://i42.tinypic.com/fdu2yo.png
Posted 24 February 2012 - 08:15 PM
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No, no, I never saw any manga like that, happily. It was really just a suposition. But the "fix" part happened a couple of times with me.If you see someone abusing information, please report to the moderators. We can lock the comic from being edited further.
but but but but but but but but what about my suggestion? ):
Posted 25 February 2012 - 12:25 AM
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I mostly agree with what vimes said.but but but but but but but but what about my suggestion? ):
You can select type: artbook. I don't think art is really a genre, since all manga is art.
you could make a list of qualifying manga and if its long enough that would mean its significant probably.
I don't really see much of it's usefulness and potential vast mis-usage. Arts is quite vague, are you suggesting a category for fine arts? literary arts? art awards? comics that talk about art? I'm not even sure what comic would go under "art" other than artbooks.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:09 AM
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Bakuman, Mangaka-san to Assistant-san to, Chanto Kaitemasu kara!, Comic Party, G Edition (creation of manga)
Beck, Nana (music)
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Addicted to curry (cooking)
Paradise Kiss (designing clothes)
other manga about music (a list I found somewhere):
Beck, Nana (music)
24 colors - Hatsukoi no Palette, Pink Lady (painting/drawing)
Addicted to curry (cooking)
Paradise Kiss (designing clothes)
other manga about music (a list I found somewhere):
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Edited by vimes123, 25 February 2012 - 01:27 PM.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:24 PM
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@vimes123 Dude, I was starting my post and then comes the 'new message' pop-up. And then "WOW". You're a hero.
@Grumpy Hm, yeah, thinking now I can really see that 'arts' is a little vague. But then, a "Music" and "Painting/Drawing" genre (just a example) would kinda ignore other type of arts.
@Grumpy Hm, yeah, thinking now I can really see that 'arts' is a little vague. But then, a "Music" and "Painting/Drawing" genre (just a example) would kinda ignore other type of arts.
Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:36 PM
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I kind of really like this idea. I think Alrei means Fine Arts. And I would love a Fine Arts Genre.
"Fine art or the fine arts encompass art forms developed primarily for aesthetics and/or concept rather than practical application." -- Wikipedia
PS Wood Stock would be under this category too.
"Fine art or the fine arts encompass art forms developed primarily for aesthetics and/or concept rather than practical application." -- Wikipedia
PS Wood Stock would be under this category too.
Edited by ChibiKall, 09 May 2012 - 10:33 PM.
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