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[Obsolete]

The title says it all.

[Obsolete]

Awesome! I'm so glad that Riki is a pro now. Wonder what challenges he's gonna face from this moment forward and if he will eventually face down Thunder.

[Purple Library Guy]

Yeah, at first I would have been sure he would. They were enemies and stuff. But now not so sure--they'll be more like friendly rivals from the same stable, right? If they fight it'd be way in the future. You might even get a scenario more like, some bad dude boxer nails Thunder, maybe with a bit of cheating, and he's like "Go get 'im Riki, save the gym's honour" and then Riki surpasses Thunder by beating the guy, but without ever fighting Thunder himself, kind of thing.
The manga is shifting. Now that Riki is getting halfway competent, he's not a joke any more and the manga doesn't "bring the funny" as much. From here it's more like a serious boxing manga, is my guess--but you've been drawn into the characters enough that I still feel like following it for a while even though that's not usually my thing.

[Obsolete]

I'm thinking the chapters will be split up like this. 1/3 Slice of life and 2/3 Boxing. That way you can get all the relationships and character building while also keeping the main focus of the manga well intact. At least thats how I feel about it.

[Purple Library Guy]

You could well be right.

[sirilius]

What a president.
Upcoming undercurrent of romance?
What does Hijiri (the president's... daughter?) do for a living?

[Purple Library Guy]

I think my post earlier was muddled. I was talking about rivalry between Riki and that flash punk boxer guy. Thunder's the ex-champ, right? He's the mentor, Riki was never going to fight him seriously. I just got names mixed.

Undercurrent of romance? Yeah, maybe. Maybe more than one, actually--whatsisname down at the flower shop, the girl there looked like she fancied him.

Edited by Purple Library Guy, 08 November 2011 - 08:23 AM.

[Obsolete]

Yeah. I think there should really be a match between Riki and Thunder. It would ultimately show how far Riki has come.

[Darkwings]

I guess the last chapter answered the question of what does the manager's daughter for a living...maybe she helps with the gym management (accounts, subscription etc, while her dad is actually inside the gym to help with the training).

An ex-wannabe delinquent pro-boxer working in a flower shop was a bit too much.. but everything about Shinya seems to be that way (typical rebel / tattoo / runaway etc).

Also, Aozora finally avoided possibly yet another one of those uber-cheesy moments in the bath scene...he just behavied like a normal kid, for change.

Edited by Darkwings, 10 November 2011 - 04:18 PM.

[Obsolete]

I couldn't help but smile while reading chapter 41.

[Purple Library Guy]

Yeah. I like it when you have fights sometimes that aren't all And He Fights Bravely Back From Nearly Being KOed yadda yadda. Shows the training means something.

[Obsolete]

And now the cast is bigger and has more variance in the "up and coming Boxers" category.

[hero]

yeah I like this series alot. I am so happy that he isn´t a weakling. the idea that his sister dies so he has to take care of her son is really good.

[Obsolete]

I know good and well that this sorta thing happens all the time with sports where you have to keep in certain weight classes, but its still shocking none the less.

Also thanks to scantlators for pumping out translated chapters so frikin fast!

[Purple Library Guy]

You bet, Obsolete. Keeping up like this week after week must be a lot of work. The scanlators are mucho appreciated.

[Darkwings]

That stuff about weight control was presented even more bluntly in Ganbare Genki and Ashita no Joe, but those were different times...

OT but related:
If you think about it, that forced throwing up and crazy weight control...can you really say that the most people doing that are professionals of some sport/discipline today?
The shock value is a lot toned down by reality itself now. That's the really shocking thing.

[hero]

I am not defend the forced throwing up but I dont see why it is so bad. I mean I wouldn´t recommend it to anyone but even if people do it they don´t die because of it.

[Purple Library Guy]

Mm. Well, in the context of weight control for things like boxing weight classes, it's probably as a rule under control--a means to an end. But it's not uncommon for that kind of practice to be out of control; it becomes an end in itself and it can be very dangerous. Some people have indeed died from overdoing that kind of thing. Not just girls either, although it's traditionally been a big problem in, for instance, ballet, where a slim body without much bust has always been favoured.

Chapter 44--OK, I confess I don't understand any more than Ricky when the guy says Kazuhiko hasn't become champion because he's too strong.

[Leyeon]

For a boxer, who wants to retain as much lean mass as possible, forcing yourself to throw up would be counter productive.
After the kind of training he did his body would need the energy to maintain his muscle mass.
He would not have that much muscle mass and be that lean if he did that, so it's kind of unrealistic.

[hero]

Leyeon, on 24 November 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

For a boxer, who wants to retain as much lean mass as possible, forcing yourself to throw up would be counter productive.
After the kind of training he did his body would need the energy to maintain his muscle mass.
He would not have that much muscle mass and be that lean if he did that, so it's kind of unrealistic.

I think you forgot that he is fighting in a specific weight class, so if you train so that you have enough muscle and everything else is then too much or he would have to go a weight class higher.